Re: Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize (A Facebook Status Update Debate)

Tommy S. If you can’t understand why Obama won the Nobel Prize, you’re just not paying attention.

3 hours ago • Comment • Like
6 people like this.
Paul C.
I thought I was paying attention but I must have missed something. They voted months ago for it. Hmmmm.
3 hours ago
Christine D.
Yup apparentlly I wasn’t paying attention either.
3 hours ago
L.L.
ya’ll remember election night when the whole world had a party? when people gained some hope and trust about what was possible? repeat: the whole world had a party on election night, just by getting into office, obama created a shift n folks outlook. he’s actually had a bigger impact than most peace prize winners, just on election night.
2 hours ago
Roni Weiss
I dunno… I think there is a legitimate argument for others over him. I don’t agree with the rationale of giving someone an award so they continue what they are doing.
about an hour ago • Delete
Suzan E.
Per our conversation last night, I now agree with you… It’s a high level peace… But I believe that, by your rationale, it is the American voters who, ultimately, should have been awarded the prize.
about an hour ago
L.L.
peace prizes are only given to people so they can continue doing what they are doing, unless given posthumously
about an hour ago
Roni Weiss
Ok, make sure Mandela keeps working on that apartheid thing.
about an hour ago • Delete
Roni Weiss
And there is a vast different between rewarding someone with something they would like to do and something they have actually done.
about an hour ago • Delete
L.L.
actually mandela continued to work for his country even after apartheid officially ended. and obama really did get elected, inspiring billions of people of color, who’s history has been shaped by the forces of imperialism and colonization, that the biggest most powerful country in the world elected someone more like them and less like the ones who impoverished them. and yes, he has and will continue to speak in an inclusive, human and rational way across borders…
36 minutes ago
L.L.
According to Nobel’s will, the Peace Prize should be awarded “to the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses.” the middle one he’s still got some work on, but he’s done the other two in a huge way.
35 minutes ago
Roni Weiss
My main disagreement has been with their explanation as to why they gave it to him. It feels anticipatory as opposed to based on actual efforts and accomplishments.
32 minutes ago • Delete
Roni Weiss
And in the end, I disagree with the idea that all that needs to be done to get a Peace Prize is to make speeches, as opposed to concrete steps.
The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan/Pakistan continue. Israel and Palestine are still in an unending problem. Carbon reduction hasn’t been agreed upon. North Korea and Iran are still potential nuclear states…
I don’t disagree with that he could earn it, but I think it’s premature…. Read More
24 minutes ago • Delete
L.L.
roni, dude, it’s easier for you to travel internationally. thus you are experiencing and observing Peace. despite your own experience and observations, you choose to see obama getting a peace prize as a point of contention. you are a Fox news wet dream.
12 minutes ago
Roni Weiss
2006: People bitching about Bush.
2009: People not bitching about Bush.
I don’t see that being a peace issue.
10 minutes ago • Delete
L.L.
ok roni, you’re right. the world is no better now than in 2006. have a nice day.
3 minutes ago
Roni Weiss
~shrugs~ You’ve misconstrued my comments and have gone out of your way to insult me for pretty much no good reason, I think the discussion is over.
about a minute ago • Delete

Tommy S. If you can’t understand why Obama won the Nobel Prize, you’re just not paying attention.

3 hours ago • Comment • Like

6 people like this.

Paul C.

I thought I was paying attention but I must have missed something. They voted months ago for it. Hmmmm.

3 hours ago

Christine D.

Yup apparentlly I wasn’t paying attention either.

3 hours ago

L.L.

ya’ll remember election night when the whole world had a party? when people gained some hope and trust about what was possible? repeat: the whole world had a party on election night, just by getting into office, obama created a shift n folks outlook. he’s actually had a bigger impact than most peace prize winners, just on election night.

2 hours ago

Roni Weiss

I dunno… I think there is a legitimate argument for others over him. I don’t agree with the rationale of giving someone an award so they continue what they are doing.

about an hour ago • Delete

Suzan E.

Per our conversation last night, I now agree with you… It’s a high level peace… But I believe that, by your rationale, it is the American voters who, ultimately, should have been awarded the prize.

about an hour ago

L.L.

peace prizes are only given to people so they can continue doing what they are doing, unless given posthumously

about an hour ago

Roni Weiss

Ok, make sure Mandela keeps working on that apartheid thing.

about an hour ago • Delete

Roni Weiss

And there is a vast different between rewarding someone with something they would like to do and something they have actually done.

about an hour ago • Delete

L.L.

actually mandela continued to work for his country even after apartheid officially ended. and obama really did get elected, inspiring billions of people of color, who’s history has been shaped by the forces of imperialism and colonization, that the biggest most powerful country in the world elected someone more like them and less like the ones who impoverished them. and yes, he has and will continue to speak in an inclusive, human and rational way across borders…

36 minutes ago

L.L.

According to Nobel’s will, the Peace Prize should be awarded “to the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses.” the middle one he’s still got some work on, but he’s done the other two in a huge way.

35 minutes ago

Roni Weiss

My main disagreement has been with their explanation as to why they gave it to him. It feels anticipatory as opposed to based on actual efforts and accomplishments.

32 minutes ago • Delete

Roni Weiss

And in the end, I disagree with the idea that all that needs to be done to get a Peace Prize is to make speeches, as opposed to concrete steps.

The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan/Pakistan continue. Israel and Palestine are still in an unending problem. Carbon reduction hasn’t been agreed upon. North Korea and Iran are still potential nuclear states…

I don’t disagree with that he could earn it, but I think it’s premature…. Read More

24 minutes ago • Delete

L.L.

roni, dude, it’s easier for you to travel internationally. thus you are experiencing and observing Peace. despite your own experience and observations, you choose to see obama getting a peace prize as a point of contention. you are a Fox news wet dream.

12 minutes ago

Roni Weiss

2006: People bitching about Bush.

2009: People not bitching about Bush.

I don’t see that being a peace issue.

10 minutes ago • Delete

L.L.

ok roni, you’re right. the world is no better now than in 2006. have a nice day.

3 minutes ago

Roni Weiss

~shrugs~ You’ve misconstrued my comments and have gone out of your way to insult me for pretty much no good reason, I think the discussion is over.

about a minute ago • Delete

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2 Responses to Re: Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize (A Facebook Status Update Debate)

  1. Jordan says:

    I share your concerns Roni. It was premature and not even really based on past performance are you mentioned although I got a lot of flak for comparing it to Bush’s “Mission Accomplished” Nobel prizes in the sciences aren’t given for potential work after all.

    Obama did accept the award though so I think the analogy still works.

    Anyway, your posts still look like gibberish on the Google Reader feed.

  2. Jeremy says:

    I think the prize is great – and a good decision. I wrote this elsewhere, but think it applies:

    I think it’s great, and I think most American’s will agree. Is there some posturing involved by the committee? Sure. Will there be criticism? Sure, idiots will be idiots. Still in the end, I think one of the main reasons Obama was elected was because the vast majority of American’s were very unhappy with the direction the country was going AND with the way we were perceived internationally. We like being the social and cultural center of the world and people could see that slipping away under Bush. In less than a year in office, Obama has largely righted that ship. It started with the Cairo speech, and has continued through his current dealings with Iran, but in general he has just been serious about the serious problems we face, which is a seachange. Taken as a whole this is truly an amazing feat. The prize is both proof of, and a reinforcement to, that change, which will only be seen as a good thing by the silent majority in the US.

    I second the Google reader complaint, by the way.

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